Front garden searched for bodies

[appleton]

Officers searching a house in Kent where the bodies of two teenage girls were found have begun digging up the front garden.

Police completed their search of the ground floor over the weekend, and have also moved to the first floor and attic space of the property in Margate.

The bodies of Vicky Hamilton, 15, and Dinah McNicol, 18, were discovered at the house in Irvine Drive.

Peter Tobin, 61, has been charged in Scotland with murdering Miss Hamilton.

The father of Miss McNicol is expected to visit the house on Monday.

Another murder. Very disturbing. I can't imagine being part of the current family who lived in the property. Imagine the police knocking saying they want to dig up your garden and you have to move out?

This guy is obviously very wrong in the head. The fact he built his sons sandpit on top of where he buried one of his victims speak volumes.

Sad thing now is that he has lived his life. Police say he could be involved in murders as far back as 40 years ago, but he's literally got away with it. His life is near the end. He fulfilled his life. Something his victims never quite got the chance to do. If there is a hell in the afterlife please I beg the powers that be to let this man in first.

(It's not all doom and gloom in the world you know. *Searchings for a story that's not depressing* )

Matt

[Lad]

He must have a tormented conscience, well you'd hope so anyway. Been following this one on the news. I'm glad for the family - finally some relief.

[Lad]

I was interested to find out about how they located Peter after such a long time. I read up on his history and he has such an appalling history of violence The fact he lived very near Vicky and the place where her body was found was in his garden (plus he left his house two days after Vicky disappeared) and was constantly running from the police he'll almost certainly be found guilty by any jury whether he did it or not though it appears unlikely it could be anyone else.

However, I stumbled upon this very interesting link about a very special and talented dog used in criminal investigations and as far I can gather is the only dog in the world to this degree of intelligence.
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=824232007

[appleton]

Nasty guy. Imagine what he is like even at this age.

Deserves locking up until he dies.

[Dom]

True, I just think it's a shame that public money has to be spent to keep these people alive and well in prison. I know prison isn't exactly rainbows and lollipops for the people inside, but still, that money could be used to help poor children or something, instead of keeping someone in prison who, by all accounts, deserves to be hung.

[periphrastic]

^ whoa, that's tough!


anyway, sick, sick

[Dom]

Well, OK, maybe it was slightly. I know that nobody has got the right to take someone's life, even if it is an "official" sentence as punishment for a crime. But the way I see it, that guy gave up his rights as a person as soon as killed those people.

Still, who am I to make that call?

[Lad]

IMHO the fact of the matter is that the human rights act is morally and fundamentally wrong. Everyone does not have equal rights at all. Prisoners have very limited rights and murderers do not have the right to demand that while they can kill others no-one can harm them. I believe that to be crime against those who have had their loved one taken away. If there is complete 100% proof, without a shadow of any possible doubt that the conviction could be overturned, murderers should be hung. The rest that can't be proved to 100% (but enough for a jury to believe they are guilty) should be locked up for life; proper life. I think the biggest problem for the ordinary citizen is that they fear that the judgment may just be wrong; hence my reasoning. If that just meant a dozen of the 800 or so murderers we have got executed that would be a great improvement. For some strange reason it is the governments of the EU countries that despise the rights of the victim and grant the liberties and luxuries of life to the criminal. How do we vote these people in?

[Dom]

[quote=Lad]
...I think the biggest problem for the ordinary citizen is that they fear that the judgment may just be wrong; hence my reasoning...
[/quote]

It's funny you say that, because I would have said that the opposite is true. I think that the punishments given for crimes these days are nowhere near severe enough to scare people into not commiting a crime, which is, after all, the reason the punishments exist. I think it's because people don't fear the repercussions that more and more crimes are commited these days.

If we hung murderers, rapists and child molestors etc, then as soon as someone was wrongly executed, that would get people thinking a little more about their actions. If you think about it, having a system of "no mercy" (even if, on the odd occasion, the justice system did get it wrong) then people would be scared to even think about doing anything wrong, incase they were wrongly convicted.

It sounds a little harsh, but seeing how things are going currently, I think we need to take a harder stance towards crime of all types really. At the moment, it's just a joke to some people - and family's lives are ruined because of that.